Coliseum Referendum Defeated by Nassau Residents

Ed Mangano and Charles Wang "disappointed" with outcome.

Nassau County residents voiced their displeasure at the polls Monday, as the referendum that would allow for a new arena to be built for the New York Islanders in Uniondale was voted down.

The final numbers were not official when Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano and Islanders owner Charles Wang took the stage, but at 11:40 p.m. the duo threw in the proverbial towel with just 70 percent of the votes tallied.

"I have to tell you, I'm disappointed," Wang said. "To put it very bluntly, I'm heartbroken."

"I can tell you this, tonight is not the end of our journey, but merely the beginning," Mangano added. "In the coming weeks I will explore a path for new opportunities and growth in Nassau County."

According to the Nassau County Board of Elections, as of 1:30 a.m., with 99.83 percent of the votes counted, the margin was 88,389 against and 66,829 for – or 56.95 percent to 43.05 percent.

It is uncertain at this time whether Islanders owner Charles Wang will attempt to continue with the project and fund it himself.

Wang said it was "a very emotional time" for him and his staff, and would not discuss anything further about any possible next step for the property. He went on to say that the team is committed to Nassau County until 2015, when the current lease on the Coliseum expires.

"In the coming weeks, we will seek additional options for this property," Mangano added.

Also on the referendum was the construction of a minor league baseball stadium that would be built across the street from the current Coliseum at Mitchel Field. Back in July, County Executive Ed Mangano said that the ballpark would be looked at as a potential self-supporting, individual location.

This is a breaking news story. Stay with Patch for more updates as soon as they're made available.

Catherine Mary August 04, 2011 at 12:39 PM
According to our promoter, it was "the Coliseum People" and the amount for the additional insurance was $6000. I don't know for a fact what the final amount was. And I don't know if anyone other than the Coliseum every got that money.
Niteislander August 04, 2011 at 12:55 PM
http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2011/08/the-islanders-have-friends-in-queenschamber-now-is-the-time-for-talks-to-begin/ Nassau's window may finally be closed.
Robert Demarco August 04, 2011 at 01:08 PM
I am sure that the Coliseum people only collect the insurance money and there is a favored broker who actually writes the business.
Catherine Mary August 04, 2011 at 01:26 PM
That certainly sounds like a possibility. Similar to the "agencies" that process the paychecks for the salaries of those not actually eligible to hold their Civil Service positions for the businesses that employ them anyway. Welcome to Nassau County...Abandon all hope ye who enter here.
Jerry August 04, 2011 at 02:20 PM
This really is a shame that the Islanders and Mr. Wang got caught up in the politics of the Town and County. Kate Murray deserves the most blame for not allowing Mr. Wang to develop the area with his own funds. Mr. Mangano was having us residents borrow the money and pay back the bond. All money from the Islanders was going into the general fund and the bond taxes would still be on the tax bill. Just another way to increase our taxes.to pay the police contract.
Mac August 04, 2011 at 02:22 PM
At usuaualyou seem to find EVERY negative link in the world. Here is the attendance figures for each team as reported by the NHL. Who would be the best to report their own attendance: http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2010 You believe what you want. The NHL is reporting 12 teams at 100% 7 @ 94-99 7@ 81-89 3 @ 71-79 and 1 at 67.9 and that one is NOT the Islanders :). The NHL is also reporting increased profits for last year. So believe what you want a a link from the FIRST MONH of the season by ABC or your second link dtaed 12/2010 talking about how both NBA and NHl are down NHL about 3% which isconsistent with a down economy and the fact the Phoenix franchise just doest draw or your 3rd link dated 10/10 after only about 5 games or your last and best link talking about the 09-10 season dated 6/2010. Why dont we all just ignore the current season and NHL links I have provided. Your links are outdated and do not include the complete 10-11 season totals and cannot be considered valid.
Mac August 04, 2011 at 02:26 PM
I do however find it very interesting that when one party in control like say Mangano and Murray work together suddenly the zoning laws in TOH were changed to accomodate the republican plan but when the democrats supprted a different plan there was NO way of changing it. ANY change will disrupt the way of life. I guess they arent worried about Uniondale anymore. IDIOTS!
Niteislander August 04, 2011 at 02:34 PM
I despise Kate Murray but She has not changed zoning laws to accomidate the republican Plan. The reason the TOH shot down the lighthouse plan was it was too big. It had a light rail going through garden city and had many appartments and office buildings, etc. Wang needed a project that big to recover the cost of building a 400 million dollar arena. She is currently trying to get a developer to buy the land to develope it on a much smaller scale. This would not include an arena. In this economic envioronment I think it will be a tough sell.. especially looking out my office window at all the empty houses in the westbury area already (by Source mall). That and a huge new project being build on Stewart Ave where the military housing used to be..
Frank August 04, 2011 at 03:37 PM
only slightly... ever so slightly!
Frank August 04, 2011 at 03:41 PM
Sounds like you're a bit bitter on the "No" vote. I'd be happy if they level the coliseum and build real industry to provide jobs to the long suffering labor pool. You are out of touch with what Long Island really needs. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.
Drew Art Guy @ Sunflower Fine Art Galleries August 04, 2011 at 05:48 PM
yet the Drooleyman avoids naming some, or any, of his past glorious development projects..... hey 40 years ago the Drew was involved in massive development in Atlantic City 4 houses and a red hotel on Pacific Ave.
dooleyman August 04, 2011 at 06:17 PM
Hi Drew Guess you were bummed out by the outcome of the vote. I have never insulted you so please use the proper nomenclature, the name is Dooleyman. I may be old but not drooling yet. I do not have to list anything i have done. All i can say is that I have the credentials to judge financial plans and have been doing so for over 40 years. I wish you the best. Are you really in the art business ? Perhaps I could ask you some questions about your area of expertise.
dooleyman August 04, 2011 at 06:22 PM
Drew I also always liked the green properties.
Robert Demarco August 04, 2011 at 07:07 PM
This thread has contained some intelligent and insightful commentary during this process, but has recently deteriorated into personal and petty nonsense. Let's try and keep the good conversation going, regardless of whether we are "No's or "Yesses".
Drew Art Guy @ Sunflower Fine Art Galleries August 04, 2011 at 08:34 PM
Dooleyman, was disappointed in the outcome, yet believe people only get what the people want. dooleyman 11:30am on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 Drew Art Guy Said" Everyone he spoke with was voting yes Maybe he misunderstood = punk comment I have issues when people post in absolutes, knock others' opinions while claiming to be experts. Thank you for the kind wishes. You may gladly ask me any questions that pertain to the art business. Will try and answer, of find an answer, to the very best of by ability. Art (paintings) or framing 1950-present. May even call our toll free number 877-747-7406.
paul.d.spellman August 04, 2011 at 08:41 PM
Little Mac, How does the population of KC compare to Nassau County? once again making it so easy
paul.d.spellman August 04, 2011 at 08:47 PM
Cathy, Did your group have a contract with the "promoter"(your quotes not mine) Did you you have an agreement in writing with the Coliseum? Was there any agreement on what level of insurance your unnamed group was required to carry? "Extortion"? or exaggeration? Were the numbers of elevators, doors etc spelled out in your contract?
Mac August 04, 2011 at 09:43 PM
Small minded paul spellman you ask how KC compares. Well they built a state of the art arena to lure an nhl team and have a lucrative cable contract waiting for an nhl or nba team. Also the residents want them there. The next location would be quebec city who have already stated publically they would take the islanders or any other franchise looking to relocate then have new arena in place by 2015. There are options. What do you care anyway? Cathy any conversation with small paul will only result in negativity and more questions. Proceed with caution. Read his posts they have little value at best.
Bill Alderman August 04, 2011 at 09:49 PM
I think that the best thing to do might be for every Islander fan to come to Hofstra this Saturday Night at 7pm and root on the Long island Lizards, because in a few years they might be Nassau County's ONLY Professional Sports team.
Sizzle Chest August 05, 2011 at 10:54 PM
From whats you postin' looks like bit is more little bitty.
An tUasal Airgead September 07, 2011 at 04:01 AM
During their onslaught of media for the vote, didn't they say something about the Coliseum being a destination for families? http://www.newsday.com/business/inside-long-island-business-1.811933/islanders-new-partner-tattoo-lou-s-1.3147385
Mac September 07, 2011 at 08:48 AM
And your point is? If it is that tatoos or piercings somehow make you a bad person not fit for families to even look at it you are way off base. Take a look around people getting tatoos are at an all time high.
garyG September 07, 2011 at 01:58 PM
Why not put the original LightHouse Project up for a re-vote. The doubletalking politicians would be faced with casting a vote on the record for a privately funded project - that fits all their arguments as to why rebuilding the area is good for Nassau County residents and jobs - except with LightHouse taxpayers would'nt be footing the bill.
Niteislander September 07, 2011 at 02:29 PM
So when they have a cupcake stand they got abused for being a joke. When they had Mascotts the Islanders got abused for being a joke. When they were the first team in the NHL that had ice girls they got abused for being a joke. Now they have a Tattoo stand for certain games and they are again being abused for being a joke. It amazes me how many poeple take shots at the Islanders mgmt.... and then copy what they did 2 years later. Lighthouse project was never put up for a vote. It was defeated by the TOH b/c of Zoning.
Bill Alderman September 07, 2011 at 03:35 PM
The Lighthouse Project was defeated because residents told their local politicians that they did not want the hub to be "The raging city for the pimp daddies of doom!" and that we wanted it scaled back. Tattooing is a very serious business!!! What's next Islander Colonoscopy Services??? There are much better ways of expanding your marketing choices at Islander games. ( food choices like a "deep fryer booth" and "Jello Shots") and merchandise choices (like "Digital cameras and accessories" and "school supplies") and service choices (like " Physical Therapy and and other offsite Medical services" ) and ways of getting revenue and servicing fans. Things like Sparky's Mausoleum, Bobby Nystrom's Diaper Service and Islander Religious Instruction Classes are as inappropriate as tattooing.
Mac September 07, 2011 at 03:44 PM
Bill I would like to see a deep fryer booth maybe we can get some deep fried twinkies and oreos! With all the hard liquor sold at the coliseum I am surprised they do not have jello shots. Honestly, I see nothing wrong with a tatoo shop.
Niteislander September 07, 2011 at 04:43 PM
I feel like I am dumber after reading this comment. This may be the most idiotic stream of consciousness troll comment ever written. I am guessing you are a Ranger fan. that is just a guess.. .
Bill Alderman September 07, 2011 at 06:00 PM
sorry Niteislander, I have a season ticket that i share with my son and have for over 10 years. But stoopid is as stoopid does. Temporary tattoos like facepainting is okay per se , but it can cause rashes and allergic reactions needing an epipen. Permanant tattoos involve needles and blood, they carry several risks. These include transmission of diseases like hepatitis, tuberculosis and possibly HIV. Tattoo Lou's does have official complaints against their artists too. So this is not non-sense. Non-sense is you showing up at last years islander game on Halloween , in costume...dressed as an empty seat. Good Sense is the ideas that I proposed... some of which work real well in stadiums and arenas all over the world.. Deep fried Twinkie anyone!
Mac September 07, 2011 at 06:04 PM
I too am a season ticket holder. I see no issue with the tatoo station. I would hope it wouldnt be out in the concourse but have its own space. I think your deep fry station is genius though! Deep fried twinkes and oreos are amazing! Bring on the carny food!
Bill Alderman September 07, 2011 at 07:18 PM
That is it! I'm gonna contact the Wangster right now! Ladies and Goaliemen announcing" Mac N Bill's Carny Concoctions..." Deep fried Mac n cheese (and Bill 'em now) Deep fried Twinkies, Deep fried Snickers, Deep fried Cheese cake Deep fried oreos, Deep fried icecream, Deep fried hockey pucks Deep fried butter and ... Wash it down with Sweet Tea,or Texas Tea and some Jello shots On the concourse by section 11


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