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Suffocated by Taxes

Are we getting our money's worth in our Long Island school districts or are we getting schooled in how to waste?

As we approach another summer on Long Island, I put my Empire Pass on my car, booked a camping vacation in a New York State park and prepared for summer camps and recreations for my kids; I began to think about all the money we pay in taxes and fees and where it all goes to.

I’m not a native Long Islander, only living on the island for the last four years, so the idea of $10,000 tax bills and fees to use parks is still something I’m not used to. Attempting to be a fiscally sound person in these trying economic times, I began to ask, what am I getting on Long Island that is so much better then everywhere else that my taxes should be so high.  It’s a question that I have posed to my fiancé and other native Long Islander’s over the last several years.  And I seem to get the same answers: our schools are better than other places, we are safer than other places, we have a ton of parks that we can use, we have a large public transportation system, we have amazing beaches….all these things cost money.  But when I pose the question, do you really think your money is going as far as you think it does, no one seems to have a real answer.  So I began to do some research and what I found was just appalling.

Let’s start with the number one answer, and I think the number one reason why taxes are so high: the Long Island educational system.  Long Island has been touted as having one of the best educational systems in the country, well by other Long Islander’s anyway. Well, let’s take a look at some of the facts.  According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average hourly wage for a teacher in 2011 was $56.59 per hour.  Let’s take a look at how that compares to other industries with high levels of education: Environmental Engineer: $39.72, Chemical Engineer: $38.88, Physician Assistant: $37.84, Nuclear Engineer: $35.23, Civil Engineer: $33.06, Chemist: $31.35.  Should a teacher earn $21.36 per hour more than a Nuclear Engineer?

“But it’s so expensive to live on Long Island.  If we don’t pay our teachers more, they won’t be able to afford to work here.”  Is this all too often argument
actually true?  Well, let’s look at the numbers again.  According to LongIslandSchool.com, a website dedicated to promoting schools on Long Island, the average teacher’s salary in Nassau County in 2011 was $75,284 per year.  According to the United States Census Bureau, the average wage in Nassau County is $41,387.  I really wonder how the 1,324,701 people who live in Nassau County afford to live.

“But our schools are so much better than other schools across the country". After all, that’s why people want to live here.”  Really, is that true?  The average school in Nassau County spends $16,943 per student.  According to U.S.
News and World Report, published in 2011, the highest ranked schools on Long
Island are, South Side High School in Rockville Centre, ranked 22nd nationwide,
Jericho High School, ranked 94th nationwide and….oh wait, there are no other schools ranked in the top 100. Considering the average national spending per student is $9,963 and schools in Nassau County spend on average $16, 943 per student, are we really that much better and are we really getting our monies worth?

It sounds to me like we need to start taking a harder look at our schools, our
teachers, and our administrators and really question if we are getting what we
pay for. I can’t understand how we can justify paying our teachers an average of $33,897 per year more than the average Long Islander?  How can we
justify spending $6,980 per student more than the average and only have two
schools in top standings in the country? We need to stop listening to the teacher’s unions and start listening to common sense.

Over the next couple of blogs, we will continue to explore the expense on Long Island and tackle the other tough questions that face us. Feel free to follow along and comment.

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Greg Bashaw May 21, 2013 at 09:32 pm
As for the mandate, maybe YOU should run for the Board, we need a change and thats WHY I amRead More running... Thanks for the info though!
Greg Bashaw May 21, 2013 at 09:30 pm
FYI- Rosemary Corliss, mentioned it 2times as something are are planning to loo at....at Meet theRead More Candidates Night......
Pat Boyle Egland May 20, 2013 at 04:06 pm
The NBUFSD BOE has not mentioned cutting bussing in over a year, it is not a part of the 2013-2014Read More budget. The pensions and benefits are not regulated by the BOE it is a state mandate.
Pat Boyle Egland May 22, 2013 at 02:48 pm
Eliminating the CHSD is a great idea but it needs to be voted on by the citizens of all 4 districtsRead More . In BM we have 5 set of administration - North Bellmore, Bellmore, North Merrick, Merrick and CHSD . Pensions are a are a state and national battle NOT local
Greg Bashaw May 20, 2013 at 12:50 am
Well for starters, why not give candidates 401K's and only pay a proportion of their benefits...HireRead More teachers and adm that actually live in our district...... Has anybody proposed dismantling the high school district......From the way I understand they have tried unsuccessfully to combine, well then how about saving moneu and splitting up the 3 high schools...This was we wont need 2 administrations...... I will try and I will think out of the box!
truth May 19, 2013 at 09:11 pm
You are going to do something that even Cuomo won't touch...pensions? Well, thank you forRead More recognizing the real problem that faces the taxpayers but how will you address the problem and not just promise?
Dan DeLilla May 18, 2013 at 10:40 pm
So Lu Scala never had any children so it might be safe to say you have never been to a PTA meetingRead More or a School Board meeting or a budget presentation so then you would have no idea how the money is spent good or bad. I'm sorry that your neighbors make more than you but like anything else you get what you pay for there are educational requirements for teaching and administration jobs, I'm sure you would be happy if all the school personnel could be replaced by minimum wage earners or better yet we could close all the schools after all you have been out of school for 40 years so you don't need them anymore, but thats not how it works. Why is always the uninformed that speak loudest and longest?
Lu Scala May 17, 2013 at 08:49 am
I never had any kids.. and am the last kid who went to to the Bellmore Merrick school system.....itsRead More been almost 40 years since I was a Mempham grad..and it is very disharting to hear that my many many high tax dollars..are not enought for these kids I have been sororting all these years!!! Who is getting all the money??? Its all bull.. aI live inbetween teachers.. how is it they can afford high end cars, housekeepers, landscapers, ect??????... the money is being spent in the WRONG WAYS TO THE TEACHERS, AND MOST OF ALL THE ADMISTRATION, THE SCHOOL BOARD ECT... I AM CALLING FOR A MASSIVE AUDIT AND GET0 per year.. they afe not worth any more then that.. THE MONEY BACK FROM ANYONE WHO WAS PAID MORE THEN $75,00....
patti May 16, 2013 at 08:28 pm
A bit of a surprise considering kids come home with a supply list a mile long (and average $40-$75).