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Locals Voice Concerns at Billy Dean's Public Hearing

The owner of the club went before the Hempstead Town Board of Appeals to attempt to renew his cabaret license.

Billy Dean, owner of Billy Dean's Showtime Cafe in Bellmore, went before the Hempstead Town Board of Appeals Wednesday in an attempt to renew his cabaret license and off-street parking variance, both of which expired March 28.

A decision was not made by the board on Wednesday night.

Residents and local officials expressed their thoughts and concerns on the North Bellmore establishment.

Legis. Dave Denenberg said that he is against the renewal of Billy Dean's cabaret license.

"It has never been a cabaret, but an adult entertainment cabaret." he said. "A cabaret is for singing and dancing. It does not match what was issued."

Denenberg also said that there have been reports of numerous police calls to the location in the last two years.

Dean and co-owner Rori Gordon addressed the board. Dean said that a number of those calls were made by staff for larcenies in the business and for unruly patrons.

"We have an incredibly tight security system and we are known in this community for having a safe environment," he said.

At a recent civic meeting, North Bellmore residents said that they do not want the establishment in their community, especially in close proximity to a school and a library.

Wantagh resident Kevin Milano has organized protests in front of the business in 2011 and in front of 3500 Sunrise Highway in Wantagh where Dean had plans to open another club. On May 14, the New York Supreme Court upheld the Town of Hempstead’s decision to reject Dean’s cabaret application for the proposed Wantagh location.

"It is across the street from a school and a library and it should not be there," Milano said of the North Bellmore establishment.

Some disagreed with Milano.

Anna Feldman, manager of the 24-hour Dunkin Donuts near Billy Dean's, said that the club and its patrons are not an issue.

"I have worked until 11 at night and it's the neighborhood kids that have been a problem," she said. "I am constantly kicking them out and customers told me they don't want to come to the store because of them. Billy Dean's customers are not a problem."

Felicia Schneberg of Plainview also spoke in support of Billy Dean's.

"I am extremely comfortable there," she said. "I brought my husband and my 80-year-old mother there to enjoy it. ... It is a club open at night for adults. Kids are exposed to more on network TV or if you take them to eat at Hooters."

At the end of the hearing, Gordon told board members to make their decision with open minds.

"If this license is not renewed, 17 people will lose their jobs," she said. "It was renewed with no problems before and we will not let you down."

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Patrick May 24, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Chris, you don't find it offensive that Kevin Milano confronted a group of women outside the hearing and alledgedly made a statement to the effect "your bodies will be found by Gilgo Beach'? A statement so heinous that these women were frightened to the point they felt the need to retreat back into the hall and seek the protection of the police, who responded en-masse to the courtyard after the encounter. You don't find it offensive that when Kevin Milano was confronted with extremely offensive unwarranted posters, that I personally saw him posting around town, he denied that they were his, and tried to lie to the BZA in an veiled attempt to deny any involvement? Chris, Kevin Milano is a scourge, and shouldn't in any way be defended by anyone.
Ralph Forbes May 24, 2012 at 05:08 PM
The only thing that Kevin Milano did was stir-up trouble in another town. People in Wantagh should really have nothing to say about what goes on here. If you don't want this business in your neighborhood. That's fine. But this is Bellmore and never saw a problem around here. Police? No different than any other bar around town. Now all of a sudden this business is a problem because of a school and a library across the street. Where was the school and library when Billy Deans first opened. Where was the school and library when their licenses and permits were renewed in the past. We live behind Billy Deans in about a five minute walk. In the tens years that I have lived here with my sister's family, We have never had any commotion, or problems here not even late at night. There are more police activities at the bars by the train station then at this place.
Chris Wendt May 24, 2012 at 05:09 PM
@ Patrick...let's be clear about the nature of my comment concerning your attacks against Kevin Milano. I did not reference anything Mr. Milano reportedly said or did, or anything he did not say or did not do; therefore, I was neither defending nor supporting Mr. Milano. I was not speaking about Kevin Milano, but I was speaking about your comments concerning Mr. Milano, and I did state, and here I repeat, I find your comments about Mr. Milano to be offensive to me, as a reader of Patch.
Patrick May 24, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Thank you, Gina, I appreciate the compliment. As you can see, there are still others out there who for some unknown reason think Kevin Milano is doing something good. Thankfully, as was glaringly apparent at yesterdays hearing, those people have dwindled to nothing, and they are completely out of touch with reality. As is Kevin Milano.
Chris Wendt May 24, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Ralph, the "Town" is Hempstead. Bellmore, Seaford, Wantagh, we are all unincorporated parts of the Town of Hempstead. What goes on here, in Hempstead, especially before a Town tribunal is of valid concern for all residents of our Town. Thus, we are all entitled to have our "say" about this.
Patrick May 24, 2012 at 05:23 PM
Understood. So let me get this clear as well, you find the truth offensive? Just to qualify, Chris, my comments about Kevin Milano are the truth, you find my comments as a reader of Patch offensive, therefore you find the truth offensive. Fair?
Ralph Forbes May 24, 2012 at 06:34 PM
The point is not who to say what. Billy Deans has been here for years with no problems. Using the excuse about a school or library across the street is no excuse to use now. The school and library was here when Billy Deans first opened. Now all of a sudden there is a problem. The police is no more here than at any other bar. I works nights. I see problems by the train station every weekend with police cars present. I walk to the Dunkin' Donuts around midnight. I never saw problems, or any loud comotions in the parking lot.
Patrick May 25, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Did anyone by chance get a look at the posters that Kevin Milano posted around town that were introduced into evidence at yeaterdays hearing? Well I did. Here is how Kevin Milano generated his opposition for the Wantagh location. One poster stated that prostitution is coming to town, another used the term "whorehouse", and the finest of the bunch "look what will be coming to our town, Men of Color". 2 lies, and a blatant racist remark. All can be attributed to that upstanding citizen Kevin Milano. All were introduced as evidence at the hearing. Also, more than 100 letters in opposition to the business were sent to the BZA, sounds like a lot, until you realize that a vast majority of these letters were from, now get this, Wantagh, not Bellmore. Many of these letters were also unsigned, or just associated with an email address. 5% of these letters came from one address, can you guess whose address that is? Thats right, Kevin Milano's. 100 plus letters in opposition, and only 4 people turn up at the hearing, I wonder why. Any ideas, people? I'll let every one posder this one for a while before I give my answer.
Ellen May 25, 2012 at 02:43 AM
Have any of you looked at the clubs website? It is a strip club & was advertised as such on it. I have children in newbridge rd school & i DO NOT want this place in my town! I asked my 20 yr old son about this place & he said " & he said you mean the strip club"? If anyone would know what is going on at that place it would be someone that age. I dont care how quiet they keep things there, both my husband & I want it gone. It doesnt belong in this town. Strip clubs are legal in Suffolk, they can open as many places there that they want, which is one reason I dont want to live there. Go open in another town, you arent wanted by the decent people of Bellmore.
Patrick May 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM
You have a 20 yr old son in the Newbridge Rd school? Interesting. You don't want to live anywhere is Suffolk because of what you call "strip clubs"? Did you just move to Bellmore in the past 6 months? If not, you never has a problem before the zealot Kevin Milano began his crusade, correct? What other business' do you believe don't belong in your town? Your son said to you that it is a strip club, has he been into the establishment? The only people who know what goes on inside the club would be the people who go there, so it would be fair to say that your son has been a patron, right? Ellen, be truthful. You had absolutely no idea that club existed until recently, and even if you did, you were at worst indifferent to its existence. If what I have said is not true, please correct me, I relish the information. 14 years, Ellen, 14 years, and no resident ever lodged a complaint, not you, not anyone.. Why all of a sudden? Easy, the zealot/liar Kevin Milano. Again, if I am off base, please put me in my place. I await your response.
Mike May 25, 2012 at 10:54 PM
This place has been here forever. Why is this news?
Patrick May 26, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Make a comment, and go away, standard fare for people with nothing to add. As I have said numerous times, people who get involved,and then uninvolve themselves garner no respect, and I have none for them. Ellen, Chris, Kevin Milano (leader of the crusade), and Kevin Milano head dope. Can't wait...
Ellen May 27, 2012 at 03:41 AM
Um no you ignoramus, I have lived in Bellmore all of my life & I ALWAYS had a problem with a strip club being in this town, so much so that I complained about this club to a local lawmaker. This guy must be paying someone off to have opened here in the first place. And no, I actually have 3 children, and the oldest is 20, my youngest is in Newbridge now, so now you can stop your ridiculous comments that you make not knowing all the facts. Oh, and I am here to comment again, so I did not go away, just too busy living my life, just like many people who feel like I do. They are so busy just living their lives, that people like you who must have more time on their hands are the ones who yell the loudest. You must be a democrat too. I have a right to my opinion, and I would LOVE to see this place go away. You are defending it so loudly, you are either a frequent visitor or have a piece of the place. And now, I will be writing letters to the people who are really worthy of my time, who I hope will listen to the decent people of Bellmore & shut this place down. Go move to NYC or Suffolk, they have these kinds of places you would like to live by. Doth do protest too much...hmmm, makes you wonder of the motivation of people who defend this type of place being here, if it was a regular bar, would you be in such support of it being here? Dont answer, I really dont care what you think,. Billy Deans is a strip club & does not belong in Bellmore, period...
paul May 27, 2012 at 02:02 PM
To Ellen: I will sum up your response and mindset in one comment "NIMBY" You really do not know what you are talking about. You poor thing.. You have no clue..... Have a cup of coffee or tea....and.... relax ... Maybe you should go to Billy Deans and relax. I will tell you what. My treat...........
Truth be told May 28, 2012 at 01:32 PM
@ Patrick or (Billy). You should realize that strip clubs bring undesirables into town. These undesireables are the same people who comit home invasions and burglaries. Prostitution is common in these clubs, parking lots of the clubs , or the house that bill (you) purchased behind the proposed mile high club in wantagh. I don't want this in my town or my neighboring town. It endangers my families safety and brings the property value down! I am opposed to any strip club! As for Milano I have never meet the man but I commend him for his passion to fight for our community. 99% of the residents share his views of a safe and family oriented community . You seem like the guy with the self serving agenda. Ps I have heard that Mr Milano and his family (including his children) have been harassed and his home vandelized. He still fights on for our community. I will stand behind him over a strip club owner who wants to fill his pockets with cash generated from 18 year olds dancing topless on a pole.
paul May 28, 2012 at 02:55 PM
To Truth be told: Your Patch name is soooooo misleading... First - You said - You should realize that strip clubs bring undesirables into town. Wrong!. Did you know what you are referring to as a strip club has clientele that are your friends, neighbors, local residents, male, female, married, single, your friends and neighbors of legal age.... Second - You said - Prostitution is common in these clubs, parking lots of the clubs. Consensual sex has occurred outside of Long Island bars / clubs everywhere on a regular basis... FOREVER!! Or did you forget.....It is natural... Third - You said - It endangers my families safety and brings the property value down! Once again you are WRONG! Legitimate businesses create other types of businesses that pay taxes and generate revenue. Economics 101. If you need any more assistance please feel free to ask. We are happy to assist you...
Peter May 28, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Congratulations to Patrick (although we know your name is not Patrick) on learning a big word like Zealot. I have met Kevin Milano and he is an upstanding citizen. I admire him for continuing to fight on despite what is being said about him and what is happening to his property. i agree there is a place for strip clubs, but they should not be in residential neighborhoods such as the Bellmore location as well as the proposed Wantagh location. Since I drive by the Wantagh location about 6 or 7 times per day i have had to explain to my 2 young daughters what a strip club is. Not information a little girl needs to know.
paul May 28, 2012 at 03:37 PM
To Peter: You said - i have had to explain to my 2 young daughters what a strip club is. Not knowing the ages the only way they would know about the term STRIP CLUB is probably from you and others using incorrect verbiage. Please stop making mountains out of mole hills...
Frank Groman June 01, 2012 at 09:30 AM
The Patch should write factual articles; as the one that is in today's Wantagh Seaford Citizen 05/31/2012. I just finished reading it, journalism at its finest, unlike the bloggers and writers that are employed by this self professed online NEWS paper. I was at the hearing, hats off to Mr. Douglas Finlay for taking notes and reporting accurately. Maybe the editors of this online NEWS paper could learn a few things, if they read Mr. Finlays article i.e. get your facts from the source not second hand. Mr. Finlay took the time to take notes and report as great journalist's do.
Frank Groman June 01, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Billy Dean: Strip club owner, or Internet marketer? Featured story by Doug Finlay in Bellmore Life/Wantagh Seaford Citizen/ http://merricklife.com/issue/thursday-may-31-2012/article/billy-dean-strip-club-owner-or-internet-marketer One criticism of Mr. Finlay's article. He neglected to mention there was not a single person from the BELLMORES in opposition of the renewal of Billy Deans permits in Bellmore. Sums up the concerns of those who live in the Bellmore community, no concerns what so-ever. The only people in opposition were the few residents from Wantagh, with little to add other than some ridiculous questions as to "how is the wrestling mat sanitised?", and Mr. Milano taking up way to much time of the zoning board saying nothing relevant and sounding ridiculously uninformed.
Patrick June 02, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Peter, What is my name? I suppose you have read the article in the Citizen by now, what are your feelings at this point? Ellen, You know nothing about anything. How many and when did you complain about this business? Nothing was introduced at the hearing that said Ellen complained to anyone, and you certainly did not speak your mind. Kevin Milano deserves everything he gets. If his home was vandalized, that is to bad, and I don't condone acts of vandalism. How and why would your daughters ask you about a yet unopened business, and do they actually say "daddy what is a strip club"? Or are you just volunteering erroneous information spoon fed to you be the opposition? Peter, you are another person who doesn't have a clue. How do you feel about Kevin Milano now that an article has been written detailing his actions? By the way, who is the we you refer to that knows my name is not Patrick? Just another uninformed admirer of Kevin Milano.
Patrick June 02, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Read the article in the Citizen, Ellen. As I have stated many, many times, I have no stake in this business, and no I am not a frequenter of this establishment. You are one of the very few who is opposed to the business, apparently most of whom are from Wantagh. Such vitriol in your response, you must be a party to hang around with. This business will continue, much to your chagrin. By the way, who did you write your letters to that are worthy of your time, Dave Denenberg? His testimony was ripped apart at the hearing, and he was exposed as a self serving politician unable to defend even his own position. Get real, Ellen.
John June 09, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Bye bye Bellmore strip club you're next, Patrick is freaking out because he's billy dean, he's on every site out there bully people around, and doesn't seem to see how under educated he sounds, not even that you can see the fear in his posts because he's grasping at straws on every site out there that's against billy deans lmao, Bellmore is next to be closed down and you can see the sheer panick coming from him, he should have kept silenced and should have been happy that he had the Bellmore place, but nooooo now he opened a can and every town is coming for him and he's in shock lmao
Patrick June 10, 2012 at 02:54 AM
This is serious, right? I have to call my interpreter to decipher. It will be a while before I have an answer. This person must have grown up in the Seaford SD, as Lorraine has stated, no one has a chance to get a quality education there. This must be a Kevin Milano wannabe, because from my info, Kevin Milano has been silenced by the Patch, thank GOD. Kevin Milano has been silent for a few weeks now. I wonder why. Thank you, John, you have helped your cause immensely, or not. I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo happy you have commented, you must be one of the kids High School Admistrator Kevin Milano has been entrusted to educate, and a fine job he has done, you are the proof. Please tell me that this is a joke,I have a great sense ot humor. I can not really believe this is an educated individual who has penned this missive. Laugh central!! Everyone needs to read this post, but only once, as it will make you dumber the more you contemplate. Funny!!
Bonnie June 10, 2012 at 01:28 PM
I have been a resident of North Bellmore for over 38 years. I have not seen one problem with "Billy Deans" club at all. They open at an hour when children are not around, they are very strict about ID's and they employ at least 2 dozen people. I do not see what the problem is, except discrimination, and prudishness. Why don't you close the internet for having porn sites. People choose where they want to go and what they choose to do, see and read. This country is built on free enterprise and as long as there is a market for what "Billy Dean" does then it will sell. I think they keep their area clean and neat, I shop in the strip where they are located and have never seen a disturbance. HELLO PEOPLE, REMEMBER THE FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION. The town of Hempstead is making a big mistake denying license in Wantagh , and a bigger mistake if they don't renew in N. Bellmore. . My opinion (every one has one)
Bonnie June 10, 2012 at 01:33 PM
My feelings exactly........ and beautifully said. :)
Bonnie June 10, 2012 at 01:34 PM
:)
Bonnie June 10, 2012 at 01:46 PM
BTW my son took me to "Billy Dean's" with some of his friends and I had a great time. EVERYONE was polite and no one was forced to join in if they didn't choose to. I laughed so hard at times I was crying. Yeah the gals can relax as well as the guys. Not everyone likes the same things but we are all adults, are we not. AS an adult I CHOOSE where I go, what I see, what I read, The media lies and our politicians are the biggest lairs. The town of Hempsted has been run by the "Good old GAL" for too long. People forgot about how she put her father in a part time job for 6 figures until some one blew the whistle. The idiots of this town still voted for Kate Murrey, WHY? Look what she did for the Colosseum deal, and on the re-vote it was blown away. MONEY down the can. Now our politicians are listening to a few squeaky wheels. I say put it to a vote like the Colosseum project. I bet that "Billy Dean's" will have his two licenses.
Ralph Forbes June 11, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Amzing how people will lie to get what they want. The people complaining are from the Wantagh/Seaford areas. There are others who admit they never knew this place existed. But know everything about the place. I live behind Billy Dean's shopping center with my sister who has three kids (now over 21). I work nights, and walk to Dunkin' Donuts after midnight. I walk the dogs around the block every night. I have never seen any problems in or around this area late at night. You will see all kinds of things at any bar anyplace. Want sex. Want drugs. Go to any bar and you will probably find it. I could see if Billy Deans was a problem. But Billy Deans is NOT a problem. So leave them alone, and stop the lying to get you way. They are a business with tax revenue for this community. Enough said. People like you, Ellen should go to Billy Deans and check it out.
Ralph Forbes June 11, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Amzing how people will lie to get what they want. The people complaining are from the Wantagh/Seaford areas. There are others who admit they never knew this place existed. But know everything about the place. I walk to Dunkin' Donuts after midnight. I walk the dogs around the block every night. I have never seen any problems in or around this area late at night. You will see all kinds of things at any bar anyplace. If you want sex. Want drugs. Go to any bar and you will probably find it. I could see if Billy Deans was a problem. But Billy Deans is NOT a problem. They are a business with tax revenue for this community. Billy Deans did not open yesterday, and the school and library across the street had always been there.

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