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TOH to Host Hearing Regarding North Shore Farms

Attorney and electrical contractor will be the guest speakers at the North Bellmore Civic Association meeting Monday.

Editor's Note: This article was written and submitted by Chris Boyle.

North Bellmore Civic Association president Reinaldo Nunez recently announced that there will be an upcoming public hearing regarding the proposed North Shore Farms Supermarket held by the Town of Hempstead on Jan. 16.

The new business would be located at the intersection of Pea Pond Road and Jerusalem Avenue.

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Some locals are opposed to the opening of the market, citing quality-of-life issues, and Nunez said this upcoming hearing, which will be held at the Board of Zoning Appeals at 1 Washington St. in Hempstead, will require a community effort to make their voices heard.

“You have to get all of your neighbors to come,” Nunez said. “If we don’t show up in a large group, we’re not going to get what we want.”

The attorney for the developer proposing to build a new supermarket and electrical contractor will be the guest speakers at the North Bellmore Civic Association meeting Monday night, which will be held at the North Bellmore Public Library at 7 p.m.

Do you support North Shore Farms coming to North Bellmore? Tell us in the comments section below.

Michael Ganci contributed to this report.
Rich Fascianella January 14, 2013 at 09:20 AM
Horsehockey. ALL my neighbors and myself, who live close to this spot are VERY excited that this spot is finally going to go from an eyesore to a vibrant store and even better, one that will be of good use to the community.
FedUpRealist January 14, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Careful what you wish for. A store with perishale food has to throw out their waste ( = opossums, racoons, flies, roaches & RATS) . And guess where the garbage containers will go? Not in the front of the store & not on the side of the store. The containers will be BEHIND the store within 20 feet of the first house on Pea Pond. Instead of 'anything' going in there, how about a push for a park - a REAL park for our kids?
Rich Fascianella January 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM
There was a store with perishable food there before. For decades. Are there vermin problems near Iavarone? Near Stop and Shop? I dont beleive so.
CarlowGirl January 14, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Are you kidding? A Park on Jerusalem, right on a main road, I don't think so - I wouldn't feel comfortable allowing my children to play there. Growing up, being the A & P, I don't recall rat issues and like the other poster said, stop and shop has no issues, Iavaronne, I've never seen a rat or the like. It has been vacant for far tooooo long.
Linda Kaldor January 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM
I think N. Shore farms would be a great addition to N. Bellmore. I live nearby and am sick and tired of having an empty store there forever. For those of you who are worried about vermin don't be. Years ago there was an A&P there and there was never any problems with that. We NEED this. This store will make N. Bellmore look much nicer and would be a great place to shop. There is one on Jericho Tpke that is really nice. Please don't fight this. It should not have any affect on Saw Mill Road School either...
Patricia January 15, 2013 at 07:14 AM
First of all, there were rats with A&P. Tons. And the people who lived behind it couldn't even be outside on a hot day due to the smells from the dumpster. If you don't live in the immediate area you can't comment on that. AND there are still RATS in the neighborhood. We don't need well fed ones. But, the main issue here is that store is AGAINST the law. They are NOT allowed here and are trying to change the law. The law is because of traffic. The area is very congested and traffic will be let into residential blocks. The children walking to school will be put in a position that is unsafe. They also told us last night that they will be getting 10 delievries a day, including tractor trailers. Imagine trying to back a large truck into that parking lot. They have 86 parking spots for a store that does TONS of bussiness. They overflow will park on the street. Leaving shopping carts in the neighborhood. This is NOT good. And for the record the store has been collecting rent for the last 10 years, that is why it remained vacant. The owner has prices so high that everyone that showed interest walked away. He has been approached by reasonable renters (office space, gyms, etc) and he outprices himself. This man will not meet with the community to discuss what would work. He is not concerned about his neighbors (which was shown by the dismal condition of his store.. until he was about to rent it of course). We have over 300 signatures on a petition so I find it hard to believe that anyone who lives in the immediate area can say that all of his neighbors are for it. If you don't live in the immediate area, have some compasssion for other human beings that do. Our lives will made miserable, our property values will plummet and our school children will be put into an unsafe situation.
angela January 15, 2013 at 07:29 AM
Linda- I don't know where you live but there is a HUGE rat problem already in the neighborhood. My neighbors and I have been dealing with this problem for a while now. You also state that the school will not be affected by this, wrong again. The extra traffic puts our children who walk to and from school in great danger. The traffic on Jerusalem Ave. is already a nightmare.
FedUpRealist January 15, 2013 at 08:04 AM
Angela & Patricia, you have to realize where these people are coming from. Their selfish wanting is for a place to get some veggies and to simply fill a store that's been an eyesore. Their disdain should be aimed at the property owner who has turned his back on our community. As you said, Ms. Faulkner, several busnisses have approached this guy but he has refused them all. GMS scoffed at the notion of a park (which could have a fence along Jerusalem). Well Mr. GMS, how about one of your kids gets nailed by one of the 18 wheeler's that will roll onto Pea Pond all day - every day? What would you say then? How would your safety issue look then? There is a silver lining for Rich F., though. Maybe we can feed the rats to all the victims of the fiscal cliff!!
sir farts-a-lot January 15, 2013 at 08:10 AM
I think the site should be converted to a toxic waste dump. No rat or other vermin problems and no increase in local auto traffic. Win/win.
CarlowGirl January 15, 2013 at 08:38 AM
First off, I'm a MRS... not a Mr. I grew up in the area, walked to that A&P when I was a kid with my parents... I live in the area more south now but still have friends who go to SawMill .. .my daughter has friends that attend that school. WIth that said, you don't need to get nasty! I'm not doing this to you --- take your frustrations out on the guy who owns the building. Okay, no need to get nasty with me about this park idea ... I know that I wouldn't bring my children there... a huge fence on a main road with lots of traffic and ODD people driving by looking at my children, no thanks!!! THATS MY OPINION... I'm not getting nasty with you over yours, so please refrain taking it out on me. Enough on that, why is it that he won't budge on price, etc... What's he waiting for - he doesn't care about the eyesore, as you said he's collecting rent. If you have issues with rats now, they are coming from somewhere...
Rich Fascianella January 15, 2013 at 09:34 AM
Oh this is funny...Im "selfish" because Im for a local supermarket to buy goods and want to see an empty store converted to something nice for the community. FedUpRealist...why not post your real name. Could it be "Iavorone", maybe?
Ralph A. January 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM
The reason why there would be a rodent problem in any neighborhood isn't because a grocery store. It's probebly because of the people. In my neighborhood how I see people throw out food and place trash and garbage bags (not even in a trash can) over a storm drain. What lives in a storm drain? Walking the dogs at night, I will see a raccoon, a rat (and they do look well fed) eating from the bags. Why not close up Shop & Shop, King Kullens and any store that sells food. Don't they all fall into the same catalog. As for a park? Are you really serious. In that area at a busy intersection. No I don't live in that neighborhood. But I remember that A&P as my aunt and uncle lived in that area when growing up in Merrick. No complaints. But I pass that area daily and it's an eysore blighted area. But I guess some would rather see the eyesore and still complain about the empty property. Have you ever noticed in new constuctions on where a dumpster are placed as well as to being concealed?
angela January 15, 2013 at 01:52 PM
I guess most of the people that are for this store don't live in the immediate area. I bet you all would be the first ones to complain if this store was on your block or in your backyard. This store is in my backyard and I don't want to have to deal with any more rats, the traffic, the UNSAFE conditions that this will cause for my child and the other children in the area. We have over 300 signatures on a petition in opposition to this store being in the area. Also, at the North Bellmore Civic Association meeting last night, there was not one person for it. All the people sitting in the audience were against it and lots of them lived in the immediate area and some from as far away as Massapequa.
CarlowGirl January 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM
... Like I said, I live just south of there... I'm not saying I'm for or against it as I don't or wouldn't have to deal w/ the store indirectly. But you'd rather have that eyesore sitting there for more years? I don't get it, what type of establishment would you like there. I'm sorry I disagree with a park there, the school swings can be used just as easily as a park could. SawMill also just rec'd a new swing set did it not? The building just sits, might as well bring some jobs in ... Anything putt here will cause traffic in and out of the building. Food, okay, maybe not a good idea... a video game store, anything..? But like others have said the OWNER is the issue here and is probably greedy or more so just a jerk :D
Patricia January 15, 2013 at 02:05 PM
I would agree that the owner is the issue. Every one of my neighbors wants SOMETHING here! Of course we do. And anything would create traffic. It is common sense however, that a supermarket would create more traffic and the trucks are an annoyance and traffic hazard. There is no one that wants it filled more than my neighbors and I. We just want the town to uphold the zoning laws that they put in place for a VERY good reason. We want the owner to bring forward something that isn't a supermarket. You know what they say about the definition of insanity (doing something over and over and expecting a different result). That applies here. We hope that if the zoning board chooses to uphold the laws that it set in place that the owner brings in a reasonable and legal renter very quickly.
Patricia January 15, 2013 at 02:09 PM
And remember, that the owner was collecting rent up until recently. He maintains that the building fell into disrepair because it was rite aid's responsibility to maintain it... Are we going to believe that a landlord has no ability to tell his tenant to clean up?? No. This owner doesn't care about the neighborhood and only fixed the place up when it suited his own needs. There are a ton of other renters he could bring in.. he has a one track mind. I am thinking a supermarket must bring a lot of rent.. This greedy man wants the most amount of money and believes he is above the law and cares nothing of the neighbors his establishment is so close to.
angela January 15, 2013 at 02:10 PM
GMS- The building is no longer an eyesore as it has been cleaned up and painted. I don't think a park is a good idea either for the same safety issues. It's not that we don't want it to be vacant, we do. We want something to go into the building. Years ago after the whole Western Beef fiasco, the property was rezoned to not allow a supermarket to be there. They have no right going in there and trying to appeal this zoning. The hours of operation of North Shore Farms would be from 6 a,m til 10 p.m. That is nuts. Add that traffic and then all the delivery trucks and we were told last night by the attorney for North Shore Farms that they get 10 deliveries a day by either tractor trailers or box trucks. There are many other types of businesses that could occupy that property and not cause have of the traffic and safety and quality of life issues that North Shore Farms will.
Rich Fascianella January 15, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Dont like the noise, dont buy a home next to the airport. Dont like traffic and the food smell? Dont buy a home next to a supermarket.
Ralph A. January 15, 2013 at 03:10 PM
Let's forget food. You have Stop & Shop to the west and King Kullen to the east in Wantagh anyway. Any type of business that comes in will create traffic. How about something like a recreational or an amusement center for family time together. I bet you have some excuse for that. also. Otherwise it's sits as an empty eyesore. I do pass by this area. It unattractive if you are trying to get people into your area. Even though it was cleaned and fixed up and looks better. It still sits empty no matter who fault it may be.
angela January 15, 2013 at 03:26 PM
Rich - Where do you live? How about you offering your backyard for North Shore Farms. Let's put a supermarket in your backyard and you'd be crying like a little baby. When I purchased my home that building was a Rite Aid and never had the volume of traffic that North Shore Farm will produce. Neighbors visited the other locations that North Shore Farms has and you couldn't get in or out of the parking lots on the weekend. RALPH- We wouldn't have a problem of another type of business occupying that property. North Shore Farms hours of operation will be 6 am to 10 pm. With 10 deliveries a day. LIke I said to Rich, put it in your backyard and see how you'd like the traffic, lack of privacy, safety concerns, smells, rats and not to mention the value of your house going down the tubes.
Rich Fascianella January 15, 2013 at 04:46 PM
I live within walking distance Angela. Im RIGHT THERE. You bought your home when it was a drug store, not when it was A/P, so I suppose you get a pass. Also, to be fair, the hours they were talking of being open AND the fact that its no longer zoned to be a supermarket has me reconsidering my position. But that aside, stop with the dramatics that this will be the end of the universe if it did happen. Drug store, supermarket, nuclear missle sight. It doesnt matter. You bought a home backing up a huge commercial property and a school. You didnt consider privacy and safety concerns before now? You didnt consider the tenant of that building would ever change? You didnt do your homework, thats now NOT our fault.
CarlowGirl January 15, 2013 at 06:03 PM
When are decisions being passed? If they squashed Western Beef, how's this happening then? Rite Aid was a stupid move as they were down the street and now across the street since purchasing Genovese. Anything they put there will cause more traffic that's the bottom line. I agree that I wouldn't want smelly food in my area either, but then again, I didn't purchase near a commercial area. I do have a lot of traffic via my elementary school and Mepham HS, esp when the 'teens' get their licenses and they are 'lead foots' ;) I wish everyone luck in this... I don't know what to say .. I hope it all works out for you.
angela January 15, 2013 at 07:40 PM
Rich- I am not being dramatic at all. I lived by a school prior to this and enjoy being near a school, hearing the children laugh and play is the greatest Being by the school and the area around was why I purchased my home. The school isn't the issue here. The traffic here has gotten worse and worse. People use Jerusalem Avenue as a service road to the Southern State. More children and parents and cars are in the area due to Gunther closing . When I moved in this area it was not this bad at all. The law is the law and they don't belong there. The safety of my child and other children in the neighborhood concerns me the most. GMS- That is our question too. We were told that we would not have to deal with this situation ever again with the zoning laws. Anything will increase traffic but not to this extent. Take a ride to any of there other stores on the weekend. It is crazy busy.
CarlowGirl January 15, 2013 at 07:45 PM
Best of luck Angela.. I'm sure lots of children in the area due to Gunther. The building does look better since it's been paved and cleaned up, weeds, etc... The owner must be a piece of garbage though :D :D :D I know that there is a farmstand in Plainview that's crazy parking day in and day out.. it's aggrevating, I went once and never again

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